Joe Rogan warns China is infiltrating US universities to 'siphon data'

Joe Rogan warns China is infiltrating US universities to ‘siphon data and information’ – and even when students get caught nothing happens

  • Joe Rogan spoke about double standards when viewing America and China with former CIA officer Mike Baker on the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience
  • He claimed the country could influence universities in the US by sending hundreds of thousands of students here to study
  • Rogan said they then collect information and sometimes get caught but nothing is done about it

Joe Rogan has warned that China is infiltrating universities in the US to ‘siphon data and information’ using students who study abroad. 

The podcaster spoke about the double standards when viewing America and China with former CIA officer Mike Baker on the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience which was released on Wednesday. 

He claimed the country could influence universities in the US by sending hundreds of thousands of students here to study. 

Rogan, 56, said they then collect information and sometimes get caught but nothing is done about it. 

US intelligence officers have long warned that the country is at risk of Chinese people spying and stealing secrets. 

Joe Rogan has warned that China is infiltrating universities in the US to ‘siphon data and information’ using students who study abroad

US intelligence officers have long warned that the country is at risk of Chinese people spying and stealing secrets

‘China has so much influence on America, it’s crazy how different the playing field is between what we’re allowed to do,’ Rogan said. 

‘Like, Americans can’t own businesses in China, they can’t own land in China, they can’t buy property – but China can do all those things here.

‘They can influence our universities, they bring their students over here, their students siphon up data and information and oftentimes get caught, it’s kind of crazy.’ 

There were nearly 300,000 Chinese students studying at American universities in the 2021-2022 academic year. 

Current and former US intelligence officers, lawmakers and experts have warned that Beijing is leaning on its scientists, business and students to infiltrate and gain information. 

Former CIA Director Gina Haspel warned in 2019 that China intends ‘to diminish US influence to advance their own goals’. 

The intelligence community’s World Wide Threat Assessment released in 2021 said: ‘We assess that China’s intelligence services will exploit the openness of American society, especially academia and the scientific community, using a variety of means.’

Concerns have been raised for more than 10 years about US universities being soft targets for foreign intelligence services that use students and staff to access emerging technologies.

Instead of using trained spies, Chinese intelligence services are said to have utilized students to act as ‘access agents’ or ‘covert influencers’, Joe Augustyn, a former CIA officer revealed. 

In October 2021, the Department of Justice charged four Chinese nationals with conspiracy. 

Rogan claimed China could influence universities in the US by sending hundreds of thousands of students here to study and collect information

Current and former US intelligence officers, lawmakers and experts have warned that Beijing is leaning on its scientists, business and students to infiltrate and gain information

It claimed they worked to recruit university professors federal law enforcement officers and state homeland security officials to work for the Chinese government as agents. 

A 29-year-old UCLA mathematics student was arrested in 2020 on suspicion of attempting to conceal his ties to the Chinese government.

He was suspected of transferring sensitive software to the Chinese military. 

The National Institute of Health issued a warning to education institutions over the threat of undercover espionage in 2018. 

‘Threats to the integrity of U.S. biomedical research exist. NIH is aware that some foreign entities have mounted systematic programs to influence new researchers and peer reviewers,’ it wrote. 

‘This kind of inappropriate influence is not limited to biomedical research; it has been a significant issue for defense and energy research for some time.’ 

One of the US Navy sailors charged with spying for the Chinese did so because his mother urged him to get a proper job, prosecutors have claimed.  

Jinchao Wei, 22, was allegedly told that passing secrets to Beijing about American military strategy and technology would help him get a job with the Chinese Communist Party when he left the Navy.

Chinese born Wei was serving on the USS Essex based in San Diego when he was arrested along with Petty Officer Wenheng Zhao, 26, on August 2 under the Espionage Act.

The pair are said to have made up to $15,000 each from passing dozens of photos and technical manuals to Chinese intelligence for more than a year.

Assistant US Attorney Fred Sheppard told a bond hearing that Wei’s mother encouraged him to betray the US when he went home to Wisconsin for Christmas.

Jinchao Wei was serving on the USS Essex while reportedly selling its secrets to Chinese intelligence 


Assistant US Attorney Fred Sheppard said Wei was encouraged to betray the US while serving on the USS Essex

Petty Officer Wenheng Zhao, 26, reportedly passed over secrets for nearly two years before his arrest earlier this month

Chinese spies have been an issue in the UK with claims that China sent a spy to infiltrate a House of Commons briefing by Hong Kong dissidents. 

A man claiming to be a tourist tried to gatecrash the private event on the top floor of the high-security Palace of Westminster in July. 

He attempted to enter a meeting addressed by Finn Lau and Christopher Mung to an audience of around 50 journalists, peers and MPs. He left after a brief stand off.

Mr Lau and Mr Mung are among three exiled Hong Kong activists who have £100,000 arrest bounties put on their heads by the city’s Beijing-controlled police.

Pro-democracy campaigners accused the gate-crasher of being a Chinese Communist Party informer intent on filming, stalking and harassing those at the event.

It was investigated by parliamentary bosses and the issue of Chinese spies was discussed in the House of Commons. 

At least 50 Chinese students left the UK between 2020 and 2022 after Britain tightened its procedures to stop sensitive academic research from being stolen.

The head of the UK’s spy agency MI5 said it had ‘more than doubled’ its effort against Chinese activity as part of a joint warning with the FBI.

He added that the ‘most game-changing challenge’ came from an ‘increasingly authoritarian Chinese Communist party’ that was setting its sights on secrets and intellectual property across the west. 

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