‘One at the time!’ Vine host forced to step in as Afghanistan talk descends in chaos

Jeremy Vine: Trisha Goddard intervenes in Afghanistan debate

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Jeremy Vine host Trisha Goddard had to interject when Emily Carver and Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu erupted in a heated row over Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan with no extension.  The US President confirmed on Tuesday his decision he is not planning to postpone his deadline to pull out all remaining US soldiers and personnel from Kabul.

Speaking on Jeremy Vine on Five, columnist Emily Carver said angrily: “ Biden’s decision to withdraw troops ahead of schedule 

“And he’s refused to even attempt to extend this deadline which could save thousands of lives including British and UN troops.

“That’s a betrayal.”

However, Women’s Rights Activist Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu argued: “That’s not a betrayal!”

They then talked over each other in chaos and Trisha Goddard was forced to step in, saying “Okay we have got both of you at one time”.

I don’t buy into ‘nobody would be left behind’.” 

“You will leave many people behind by the 31st. So extend it.”

She went on: “I know he has a power to do so, but by refusing to do so makes no sense to me.

“It is America doing its own thing. But again, that is not a betrayal.

“UK, Canada, all of these allies should have been evacuated a long time ago.”


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President Biden says the US is “on pace” to meet a 31 August deadline for evacuations, despite previous calls from the UK and other countries for an extension.

He said: “The sooner we finish the better.”

The United States and its allies have evacuated more than 70,000 people, including their citizens, NATO personnel, and Afghans at risk, since August 14, the day before the Taliban swept into the capital Kabul to bring to an end a 20-year foreign military presence.

Two US officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was growing concern about the risk of suicide bombings by Islamic State at the airport.

British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said the deadline for evacuating people was up to the last minute of the month.

Tens of thousands of Afghans fearing persecution have thronged Kabul’s airport since the Taliban takeover, the lucky ones securing seats on flights.

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