Dating is more complicated than ever right now: you can be benched, breadcrumbed, and ghosted by your Tinder match… all in the same week. And even when a great first date gives you butterflies, knowing what to do next can be confusing AF. Luckily, in Elite Daily’s series, We Need To Talk, our Dating editors break down the latest terms, trends, and issues affecting your life with their own hot takes to figure out how to navigate finding love in a world that changes faster than you can swipe left.
Have you ever experienced relationship limbo? You know, that state of ambiguity when you’ve been hooking up with a long-time crush you’re beginning to catch feelings for but you haven’t had "the talk" yet? There’s nothing more painful and confusing than feeling ready to DTR with a partner who isn’t quite there yet. So, what do you do in that scenario? Do you wait for them and hope that they’ll change their minds? Should you lay all of your cards on the table, knowing you may win big or lose it all? Though you may be tempted to draw a bath, blast Lana Del Rey’s newest album, and uncork a bottle of merlot, your friendly neighborhood Dating editors are ready to talk it out. Together, we debated how to deal with a long-term hookup that’s growing one-sided.
This is the conclusion we came to.
Iman [4:41 p.m.]
SO fun fact: tomorrow marks three years since me and matt’s first kiss
BUT we don’t celebrate that as our anniversary because we spent like three months after hooking up and basically dating but trying to convince each other to DTR
we both went through periods where one of us wanted to and the other didn’t and we just believed that, idk, one of us would change our minds at the right time? and it would work out?
BUT PLOT TWIST!!! it did! his sh*t is all over my apartment
Veronica [4:41 p.m.]
LOL we love that for you
Hannah [4:42 p.m.]
i think that’s so common — one person being ready for a relationship before the other
Iman [4:42 p.m.]
yea, and i 100% believe that you should never have to convince someone to date you / never would give someone that advice
BUT i feel like a hypocrite because it happened to me! i changed my mind
Hannah [4:43 p.m.]
timing changes things, experiences change things
Veronica [4:43 p.m.]
SO much of it can be about timing, yes, but ultimately, if someone doesn’t want to be exclusive, you cannot force anyone to do anything they don’t want to do
resentment forms when people feel pressured into situations and that’s not conducive to a healthy relationship
Iman [4:44 p.m.]
Hannah [4:44 p.m.]
i’ve told you about this before but there was once a guy i was dating for a few months and he said we could be "exclusive but not official" (like, uh…. ok dude)
and i really just wanted the relationship label and he refused
and in hindsight, i really wish i had just walked away, rather than waiting around for him to change his mind
sometimes a no really is a no
(and also, in retrospect, he was not a nice person, so bullet dodged…)
’twas a case of "he was tall so i thought he was hot and nice" (he was not)
Veronica [4:45 p.m.]
TBH, wouldn’t you rather date someone who is totally positive that they want to date you, and you only?
Hannah [4:45 p.m.]
yes!!!! but i had to learn that the hard way
Iman [4:45 p.m.]
i feel like everyone has been in a situation where they’re hooking up with someone, really like them, but then they say they don’t want anything serious
BUT you like them so much you stick around because even though you say you don’t want anything serious, too, you’re hoping they’ll fall in love with you?
like, i’ve definitely been in situations like that and i think my friends have too
i think it’s super toxic and painful but tough to avoid sometimes? because you catch feelings so hard?
Hannah [4:46 p.m.]
but sometimes it DOES work out
so my two questions are
1. how can you tell if you’re in one of those situations that will work out in time, à la iman & matt?
2. if you’re in one of those situations, what do you do?
Veronica [4:47 p.m.]
1. you have to talk about it
you have to be willing to be vulnerable enough to express your feelings and deal with whatever consequences those may be
i went through this
i was SO into this dude back home who like "checked all my boxes" as cliché as that sounds
and even though i wasn’t seeing anyone else, i didn’t want HIM to see anyone else so i brought up exclusivity (granted, in the worst possible way/most vulnerable situation/in bed/perhaps i was feeling connected to him but he was clearly not) and he was like UH UH UH and just expressed he wanted to keep seeing other people
Hannah [4:47 p.m.]
for maximum clarity / minimum awkwardness, the convo should happen outside bed
Iman [4:47 p.m.]
Veronica [4:48 p.m.]
so anyways, the point is my mom said to me "if you love someone set them free. if they come back they were always yours if they don’t they never were etc etc etc"
again super cliché but as into him as i was i had to walk away and it was the HARDEST thing ever
like i REALLY LIKED HIM SO MUCH
Hannah [4:48 p.m.]
i think one Q to ask yourself is this: what is standing in the way of you DTRing?
because if it’s a mismatch of feelings, you prob can’t get over that
but if it’s timing, friend group dynamics, getting over an ex, etc… THOSE are situations that can fade and evolve
Iman [4:49 p.m.]
ok i feel like sometimes
one person says they don’t want to DTR even though the emotional connection is there, but they’re making excuses (i.e. school, friend circles, etc)
Other times, one person may feel emotional connection, but the other just doesn’t think it’s there
and THAT’S when it’s really painful and not salvageable
Hannah [4:49 p.m.]
i think if you’re honest with yourself, you can suss out if that emotional connection is one-sided or not
(which is hard and awful and cringey, but hey)
Iman [4:50 p.m.]
so cringey omg
those types of non-exes still make me so upset
i think it’s the lack of closure
Hannah [4:50 p.m.]
ok so let’s recap
if you want to DTR, how do you do that?
pass along the wisdom!
Veronica [4:51 p.m.]
I know it’s much easier said than done, but you have to be willing to walk away when your needs aren’t being met
it’s a form of self-care
Hannah [4:51 p.m.]
Iman [4:51 p.m.]
yeah being willing to walk away
Veronica [4:52 p.m.]
you owe it to yourself not to put yourself through the pain of unrequited love cause that sh*t HURTS
ultimately, if someone wants to DTR, they will. period.
Hannah [4:52 p.m.]
and sometimes you have to bring it up first and that’s ok
i think you just have to say: "hey, i really like you and here’s why. i want us to look like XYZ. whether that means using certain labels, seeing each other a certain number of times a week, etc"
AND you gotta be specific
otherwise you wind up in that awkward "exclusive but not official" purgatory which is like "oh haha you invite me over on friday night but will never ever invite me to your friend group brunch on saturday morning" or "cool i don’t mind sneaking out your back door it’s all fine i swear"
Veronica [4:53 p.m.]
can i tell you guys two of the most incredible pieces of relationship advice i’ve ever gotten? surprisingly both from dudes
Hannah [4:53 p.m.]
Iman [4:53 p.m.]
Veronica [4:54 p.m.]
one time i asked a former co-worker who is married, like, “how did your wife get you to commit?” and he said, “she didn’t have to GET ME to do anything. i wanted to commit."
and i was like… whoa
the other one was from a friend’s ex boyfriend (sad) but we were basically talking about the above lets-be-exclusive-after-hooking-up-conversation man and my friend’s boyfriend was like, "so what’s the status on that," and i was like, "IDK man i’m working on it," and he goes, "why are you working on it? why do you have to work on it?"
and i was like… WHOA u right
Hannah [4:55 p.m.]
i love that
i think it’s such a myth that if you just follow all the right advice and do the right things and suddenly POOF, you have a happy relationship
i love that we are saying it’s self-care to walk away
not every fling SHOULD turn into a relationship and it’s ok to have this convo and have it not work out because as much as that intensely sucks, it’s a good way to learn that you deserve someone who will just commit because they want to!
Iman [4:56 p.m.]
the common thread in what both of you are saying is: YES people can change their minds. but they need to have agency to do so. The other person can’t MAKE them change their minds.
Hannah [4:56 p.m.]
and relationships feel 1000000 times sweeter when you know the person is there because they are just obsessed with you
not because you conned them into buying you pasta
speaking from personal experience lol
Iman [4:57 p.m.]
I think the relationships that have a chance of evolving are the ones where you truly want the best for each other
Hannah [4:57 p.m.]
you have to be equally invested
or at least equal-ish over time
Veronica [4:57 p.m.]
It should be mutual and special
Iman [4:58 p.m.]
and if it’s not working, that’s when you come to the table, willing to respect the other person and walk away
because again, it’s all about respect
Hannah [4:58 p.m.]
i think there’s also something to say about respecting the process
setting a strong foundation for a relationship can take time! and that’s ok
some people meet on monday and DTR on tuesday and get married on wednesday and yay for them, love is magical
but also, if it takes you way longer than that, that’s fine, too
so if you’re ready and they aren’t, i think once you make your feelings known, you do have to respect that that they might need some more time
people develop feelings at different rates and one timeline isn’t better or worse than the other
Iman [4:59 p.m.]
and if takes you longer, you aren’t falling behind
Veronica [5:00 p.m.]
and do not have the DTR conversation after hooking up
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