'It's going to require an upset'

Richmond accounted for Collingwood on the two occasions they played each other this year.

But the Pies edged closer in round 19, and this week on The Age Real Footy Podcast, Michael Gleeson, Caroline Wilson, Jake Niall and Bob Murphy talk the difference between being beaten and bruised and being beaten but hungry for another shot.

With Dustin Martin under an injury cloud and Jeremy Howe back fit and flying for Collingwood, among other factors, can the Pies put an end to Richmond's MCG winning streak and knock the reigning premiers out of the finals?

The panel also talks match-ups, the key players and the tactics that could make or break the Friday night preliminary final, and preview Melbourne's big trip to the west to face the Eagles.

Also this week, the Hawks are out of the finals in straight sets, but there's still plenty of optimism around the club – and Alastair Clarkson may be the best coach we have ever seen in the game.

And as Ryan Griffen hangs up the boots, we look back at his move away from the Bulldogs and what impact it had on the club, and look back on the Giants' season and their performance against the Pies. Could this loss actually benefit them in the long run?

Plus, we talk the AFL's grand final entertainment choices, rule changes for 2019, whispers out of the umpiring department and more.

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